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		By: Spectrum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.suburbangooners.com/2016/03/04/arsene-does-swagger-well-but-can-he-motivate-when-were-tripe/#comment-3388&quot;&gt;Bendtnersbettercousin&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes of course it&#039;s more than just the fans. The board are also culpable for allowing this disgraceful situation to continue.I acknowledged this. Note I said in my earlier post that ; (quote ) &quot;....The weak self interested board won’t sack him, because he keeps the money rolling in from the Champion’s League for them, and who couldn’t care less about the aspirations of the supporters, and Wenger for allowing himself to tolerate this situation and meekly complying with it...&quot;. 

It&#039;s not just the online fans. It&#039;s a sizeable number of the overall fanbase - the A.K.B.&#039;s ( A.rsene K.nows B.est ) deluded supporters that have an almost unnatural sentimental obsession for him for what he did TWELVE WHOLE YEARS AGO. They have built up a cult like aura around him. It&#039;s a bizarre situation that is a unique phenomenon peculiar to our club.

We were all Wenger fans once, including me. We all admire and respect him for the earlier league titles he gave us, including of course the fantastic unbeaten 49 game unbeaten run of the &quot;Invincibles&quot;. But that was a very long time ago. We can&#039;t let him live off his past glories forever and allow him a job for life, which is virtually what the A.K.B.&#039;s are content with. Some of us have since seen the necessity to move on. The A.K.B.&#039;s won&#039;t. It&#039;s their rigid, misguided loyalty to a manager who has clearly lost what he once had, that is in LARGE PART, keeping him in his job - to the detriment of the club&#039;s progress. 

The club is more important than the manager. ANY manager, is it not ? Do you think we should keep giving him unlimited credit on his account when he&#039;s already in overdraft mode ? Hasn&#039;t he had more time to get it right than any other manager at any other major club would have been granted ?

Ivan Gazidis, our C.E.O. was asked during an earlier crisis whether the board would ever sack him. His reply was that Wenger would leave ONLY IF THE FANS WANTED IT. The fact that he&#039;s still here proves what I&#039;ve been saying - that not enough DO want it ( yet ). Herein lies the problem.

&quot; In Arsene we rust.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.suburbangooners.com/2016/03/04/arsene-does-swagger-well-but-can-he-motivate-when-were-tripe/#comment-3388">Bendtnersbettercousin</a>.</p>
<p>Yes of course it&#8217;s more than just the fans. The board are also culpable for allowing this disgraceful situation to continue.I acknowledged this. Note I said in my earlier post that ; (quote ) &#8220;&#8230;.The weak self interested board won’t sack him, because he keeps the money rolling in from the Champion’s League for them, and who couldn’t care less about the aspirations of the supporters, and Wenger for allowing himself to tolerate this situation and meekly complying with it&#8230;&#8221;. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just the online fans. It&#8217;s a sizeable number of the overall fanbase &#8211; the A.K.B.&#8217;s ( A.rsene K.nows B.est ) deluded supporters that have an almost unnatural sentimental obsession for him for what he did TWELVE WHOLE YEARS AGO. They have built up a cult like aura around him. It&#8217;s a bizarre situation that is a unique phenomenon peculiar to our club.</p>
<p>We were all Wenger fans once, including me. We all admire and respect him for the earlier league titles he gave us, including of course the fantastic unbeaten 49 game unbeaten run of the &#8220;Invincibles&#8221;. But that was a very long time ago. We can&#8217;t let him live off his past glories forever and allow him a job for life, which is virtually what the A.K.B.&#8217;s are content with. Some of us have since seen the necessity to move on. The A.K.B.&#8217;s won&#8217;t. It&#8217;s their rigid, misguided loyalty to a manager who has clearly lost what he once had, that is in LARGE PART, keeping him in his job &#8211; to the detriment of the club&#8217;s progress. </p>
<p>The club is more important than the manager. ANY manager, is it not ? Do you think we should keep giving him unlimited credit on his account when he&#8217;s already in overdraft mode ? Hasn&#8217;t he had more time to get it right than any other manager at any other major club would have been granted ?</p>
<p>Ivan Gazidis, our C.E.O. was asked during an earlier crisis whether the board would ever sack him. His reply was that Wenger would leave ONLY IF THE FANS WANTED IT. The fact that he&#8217;s still here proves what I&#8217;ve been saying &#8211; that not enough DO want it ( yet ). Herein lies the problem.</p>
<p>&#8221; In Arsene we rust.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Bendtnersbettercousin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2016 10:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.suburbangooners.com/2016/03/04/arsene-does-swagger-well-but-can-he-motivate-when-were-tripe/#comment-3386&quot;&gt;Spectrum&lt;/a&gt;.

So you think that a selection of fans online and their support is what keeps him in a job? Bizarre comment. The board don&#039;t sack him for other reasons than that - like how he keeps cash in the bank, they don&#039;t have any ideas on who to replace him, etc. It&#039;s nothing to do with a faction of loyal Arsenal fans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.suburbangooners.com/2016/03/04/arsene-does-swagger-well-but-can-he-motivate-when-were-tripe/#comment-3386">Spectrum</a>.</p>
<p>So you think that a selection of fans online and their support is what keeps him in a job? Bizarre comment. The board don&#8217;t sack him for other reasons than that &#8211; like how he keeps cash in the bank, they don&#8217;t have any ideas on who to replace him, etc. It&#8217;s nothing to do with a faction of loyal Arsenal fans.</p>
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		By: Spectrum		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spectrum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2016 05:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.suburbangooners.com/2016/03/04/arsene-does-swagger-well-but-can-he-motivate-when-were-tripe/#comment-3376&quot;&gt;Bendtnersbettercousin&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;....but how do the pro Wenger fans influence what happens on the pitch....&quot;

Simple. Their continued fanatical support of him despite all his gross negligence and incompetence, means the board don&#039;t have any real pressure on them to sack him. Thus he stays, and the team - HIS TEAM - keeps playing the same way on the pitch. This has been the pattern for the last twelve years !  Wenger has built many teams over that time period, yet still nothing changes.

&quot; In Arsene we rust.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.suburbangooners.com/2016/03/04/arsene-does-swagger-well-but-can-he-motivate-when-were-tripe/#comment-3376">Bendtnersbettercousin</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.but how do the pro Wenger fans influence what happens on the pitch&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Simple. Their continued fanatical support of him despite all his gross negligence and incompetence, means the board don&#8217;t have any real pressure on them to sack him. Thus he stays, and the team &#8211; HIS TEAM &#8211; keeps playing the same way on the pitch. This has been the pattern for the last twelve years !  Wenger has built many teams over that time period, yet still nothing changes.</p>
<p>&#8221; In Arsene we rust.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Bendtnersbettercousin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bendtnersbettercousin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2016 10:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.suburbangooners.com/2016/03/04/arsene-does-swagger-well-but-can-he-motivate-when-were-tripe/#comment-3375&quot;&gt;Spectrum&lt;/a&gt;.

Firstly - how can you make an assumption on what I think of the manager based on the fact I call him in the blog &#039;Arsène&#039;? If you&#039;ve read my blogs over the last few days, you&#039;ll see that I am very much questioning his ability to continue to be the manager. 

But I will always have an affection for what he has achieved - you can&#039;t delete and ignore the history he has made at the club. That doesn&#039;t change. But he has changed and I&#039;m no longer convinced he can do it for us. 
I&#039;m a bit disappointed that you say it is the Wenger fans who are the reason for the clubs current state. I agree Arsène is culpable, but how do the pro Wenger fans influence what happens on the pitch or through social media? It&#039;s hard to argue with some of your other points though. Thanks for the comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.suburbangooners.com/2016/03/04/arsene-does-swagger-well-but-can-he-motivate-when-were-tripe/#comment-3375">Spectrum</a>.</p>
<p>Firstly &#8211; how can you make an assumption on what I think of the manager based on the fact I call him in the blog &#8216;Arsène&#8217;? If you&#8217;ve read my blogs over the last few days, you&#8217;ll see that I am very much questioning his ability to continue to be the manager. </p>
<p>But I will always have an affection for what he has achieved &#8211; you can&#8217;t delete and ignore the history he has made at the club. That doesn&#8217;t change. But he has changed and I&#8217;m no longer convinced he can do it for us.<br />
I&#8217;m a bit disappointed that you say it is the Wenger fans who are the reason for the clubs current state. I agree Arsène is culpable, but how do the pro Wenger fans influence what happens on the pitch or through social media? It&#8217;s hard to argue with some of your other points though. Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2016 09:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whenever someone refers to the manager as &quot;Arsene&quot;, that tells me they still have an affection for him. How can you possibly have, given the division he has caused at our club, not just this season, but during the previous twelve ? Wenger and his deluded A.K.B. cult followers, are the reason our club is stuck in the same malaise now that it has been for a decade. They are why we are not progressing, not fulfilling our potential as the great club we OUGHT to be. I won&#039;t say the great club we ARE, because that&#039;s patently untrue, given our history over that time. 

It may sound harsh, but Wenger and the weak, profit driven board that keep backing him no matter what, are a cancer that is draining us of hope for the future. The worst part is that this stalemate situation we&#039;re in shows no sign of ending. The weak self interested board won&#039;t sack him, because he keeps the money rolling in from the Champion&#039;s League for them, and who couldn&#039;t care less about the aspirations of the supporters, and Wenger for allowing himself to tolerate this situation and meekly complying with it - with the incentive of 8.5 million a year for doing the bare minimum. 

If it takes Spurs to either beat us this Saturday, or for them to win the league regardless, then this might be the necessary shock treatment to motivate the fans to revolt big time, and force the issue. We&#039;ve suffered long enough.

&quot; In Arsene we rust.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever someone refers to the manager as &#8220;Arsene&#8221;, that tells me they still have an affection for him. How can you possibly have, given the division he has caused at our club, not just this season, but during the previous twelve ? Wenger and his deluded A.K.B. cult followers, are the reason our club is stuck in the same malaise now that it has been for a decade. They are why we are not progressing, not fulfilling our potential as the great club we OUGHT to be. I won&#8217;t say the great club we ARE, because that&#8217;s patently untrue, given our history over that time. </p>
<p>It may sound harsh, but Wenger and the weak, profit driven board that keep backing him no matter what, are a cancer that is draining us of hope for the future. The worst part is that this stalemate situation we&#8217;re in shows no sign of ending. The weak self interested board won&#8217;t sack him, because he keeps the money rolling in from the Champion&#8217;s League for them, and who couldn&#8217;t care less about the aspirations of the supporters, and Wenger for allowing himself to tolerate this situation and meekly complying with it &#8211; with the incentive of 8.5 million a year for doing the bare minimum. </p>
<p>If it takes Spurs to either beat us this Saturday, or for them to win the league regardless, then this might be the necessary shock treatment to motivate the fans to revolt big time, and force the issue. We&#8217;ve suffered long enough.</p>
<p>&#8221; In Arsene we rust.&#8221;</p>
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